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| Yes, I am a polytheist (Pagan/Hindu/Taoist/etc) |
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17% |
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| Yes, I am a monotheist (Christian/Muslim/Jew/etc) |
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8% |
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| Yes, I am a deist (I don't believe in an interventionist God) |
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1% |
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| Yes, but I am not a theist (Buddhist/Jainist/etc) |
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3% |
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| I am a pantheist. |
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8% |
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| I don't know yet (agnostic) |
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14% |
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| I am an atheist. |
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44% |
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Prag
Joined: 03 Jan 2009
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I come from a strong conservative Roman Catholic family. I will always be a Roman Catholic. I love the Latin mass.
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the latin mass is wonderful rite, full of mistery... the greek-orthodox one is even more intense
the gregorian chants (latin) are great traditional musik they seem to come from another planet and surely from a superior age then ours - the middle ages were a golden age compared to our sad kaly-yuga decline...
the compositions of Arvo Part give the sense of the orthodox lithurgy another great tradition
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the compositions of Arvo Part give the sense of the orthodox lithurgy another great tradition |
I have to agree. I just want to say "Litany" and "St. John Passion" are just astounding.
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- the middle ages were a golden age compared to our sad kaly-yuga decline...
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weeeeee...
im not what could be called a pro modernist or fervent admirer of our age... but i think that statement you just made was "little" bit overrated...
The middle ages a "golden age"? my bad! 
that age had nothing comparable with gold nor any shining quality, quite the contrary, it was an age of blackness, terror, ignorance and stupidity thats precisely why it was called "dark ages". God was pretty much alive still and haunted the living with its declarations through the iron will of powerful men. Knowledge was available only for the clergy and transmited to the ones who inherited the power by god's will. You and I would be miserable ignorant servants at the service of one sir, thats not what i could call a golden way of living!
I celebrate the death from god! at last we are liberated from this miasma, this distorting prisma that didnt allow us to see the golden age! i celebrate science and post medieval art! renaissance and life...
middle age lovers certainly lack life's will. they are what Nietzsche described as "untermenschen" they need their "god" to give their lives a purpose and a metaphysical sense... what a nonsense! what a lack of stamina and spirit... they are creatures of mud!
They abhor life because they cant live without their god, so they rest beneath its corpse getting all the inspiration for their "will" from this efluvium, like maggots in a corpse.
thanks to the light of prometheus we have seen that we are god and that we are the rulers of our destiny!
i celebrate that as the triumph of light over darkness and thus the beginning of a real golden era.
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Prag
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I'm sure your stand to what you believe in is just as firm as to how deep others' faith is toward their religion.
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Rituals, in any shape or form, are to me interesting.
Religious rituals are not excluded.
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well satanarchist i think you are a bit too influenced by the so called thinkers of the "enlightment"
but reflect on this: Nietzsche had great admiration for the courage of the crusade knights, they stand, in his view, among the great mem . just like the Italian Rennaisance princes, as heroes and supermen, surely not "underman"... think of Dante...of his view of the world...not an "underman"...of the beauty of gregorian chants and gothic cathedrals and art...how could a dark age express such exeptional works of art and knowledge?
and baat of course rituals are fascinatin' and where do you find them if not in the great religions of our people?
my fave Part's composition is "In memory of Benjamin Britten" but also the orthodox chants of "Canon Pokaionen" are somethin' special... reminds me of the masses i witessed in Ukraine among the byzantine catholics
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well satanarchist i think you are a bit too influenced by the so called thinkers of the "enlightment"
but reflect on this: Nietzsche had great admiration for the courage of the crusade knights, they stand, in his view, among the great mem . just like the Italian Rennaisance princes, as heroes and supermen, surely not "underman"... think of Dante...of his view of the world...not an "underman"...of the beauty of gregorian chants and gothic cathedrals and art...how could a dark age express such exeptional works of art and knowledge? |
Off course i appreciate the thinkers of the enlightment. as ive said before, you dont know what youre talking about when you declare the medieval age as a golden age. I for once dont want to return there, im unable to see anything remotely romantic on the inquisition or the age of kings.
and its not because of the barbarism alone, as i appreciate the roman empire vastly, but because the fanaticism and repulsion for nature and independence this era distiled over the individual. Wether we still live in an era of corporative kings and rampant idiocy, i still have the ability to dissent somehow and to write what i please and to say what i must. i wouldnt have that chance back there.
im completely agree with you in what refers to art. i appreciate most medieval art. So many famous painters (i really like "el greco", Hyeronimous Bosch etc) the gregorian chants are also very spiritual manifestations not to mention Bach as an example of the advanced middle age phenomena, perhaps the best composer ever. Architecture is equally impressive with the castles around all Europe and gothic art and so on...
But art and creation are independent from the rest of endeavours this pestilent set created. They are murderers and their hands will be forever stained in blood. All the knowledge they killed and destroyed forever is something i will never forget, and most people with brains should do too! They forbid everything that was not associated with their dogmas and morals and many pyres were set to exterminate enlightment. And finally all their creations and art patrimony proceeds from this filthy result. I appreciate the result, but will never appreciate the means nor its patrons.
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and baat of course rituals are fascinatin' and where do you find them if not in the great religions of our people? |
That is probably true. but rituals are not reserved to christian related organizations only. I have been in Shinto and Buddist ceremonies and they are equally if not more absorbing and eerie than the ones proceeding from this death god.
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yes, i am religious, but i was unable to check a box in the poll as it lacks depth, i consider myself a 'son of god', meaning i am part of the designed universe, a perfect creation from the archetypal ether of the ALL, a spark of conciousness, a piece of god, a keeper of the mind energy, an engineer of reality...
mind is everynow forever without beginning
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I'm a Chaos-Gnostic, so I'm not sure which box I should check here....... I went with "Pantheist".
In my worldview, religion surely played it's part in historically giving the people of the land hope and will to survival, as well as created the basis for a lot of artistic creativity. No one can deny that.
Religion becomes a poison when it becomes an organization and institution, and a tool of control through fear and superstition.
Religion is a deeply personal matter, and definitely not something to be used and exploited politically, even less an excuse for war.
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Religious institutions, like any institution run by mere human beings with human flaws, are only as good as the humans working in it. If you have crooked, corrupt people running a church, then you'll have a crooked, corrupt church. Same with everything from government to military to education to fast food restaurants.
As for me personally, I was raised among a mixture of St. Francis Episcopalian church from my dad's side of the family, and Antioch (Arab) Orthodox from my godparents. Both of them share some striking similarities when you get down to it despite the vast regional divides. For a few years I rejected this and kind of went on my own vague path of non-religious postmodernism/relativism. It's a very, very long story, but after much study and thought, I went back to that older form of Christianity, at least in the sense that I have decided I wish to pursue it further.
Unfortunately it's hard to find a good traditional Episcopal or Orthodox church in many parts of the US. It's much easier to find modern, desperately-trying-to-be-cool non-denominational churches that look more like a coffee house meeting.
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I think I am. Well, I don't believe in God, or Satan, or Buddah, Allah... I don't believe in the Wicca. But I believe in Nature and its hidden forces, the spirits of every living forms on earth, traces of the gods. I think my faith has something to do with Paganism (not in Peo-Paganism) - such as the Celts, Vikings, etc.
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Rituals, in any shape or form, are to me interesting.
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same for me. I'm a complete atheist, but I've always been fascinated by rituals ; and mythologies too. I don't care much about the ethos or philosophy of a religion, I like the stories it carries...
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I think I am. Well, I don't believe in God, or Satan, or Buddah, Allah... I don't believe in the Wicca. But I believe in Nature and its hidden forces, the spirits of every living forms on earth, traces of the gods. I think my faith has something to do with Paganism (not in Peo-Paganism) - such as the Celts, Vikings, etc. |
You seem to be a Pantheist just like me. 
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My answer is a bit strange. I firmly have a monotheist view that is unwavering despite any doubts or hindrances which have ever stood in the way.
However, while many specifics of monotheistic religious texts weigh in heavily and literally to my worldview, the organized religious cultures we know today are sickening examples of that they preach and I wish not to associate myself with any of it.
I'm not polyreligious like many people on the trendwagon are becoming in society these days, but I do believe every religion out there has certain understandings of universal truths, where all of these religions fail to expand upon or act upon.
So I suppose one would call me an 'agnosto-monotheist'?
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