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| I proudly own a firearm |
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| I would never own a firearm |
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| I would like to own a firearm someday |
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Iron Wood
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Joined: 14 Nov 2006
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I wanted to know if anyone else likes firearms here. Feel free to answer the poll as all results are kept anonymous.
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| Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:24 am |
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Sage
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Joined: 16 Nov 2006
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Location: Cincinnati, OH, USA |
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I don't wish to get into a debate on this because I am tired of heated quarrels in my life, but I am rather split on the issue. I believe gun ownership is one of the biggest problems in America and society in general today. I see no honor in shooting someone or something down from a distance. Obviously if you only use it for target practice, okay, but I believe the bow takes much more skill and is more personal. I believe guns in the hands of intelligent individuals aren't necessarily a dangerous thing. However, many Americans are damn near idiots. Many americans are fearful and use their gun to make them feel better. I don't know. On the same hand, if there ever needed to be a revolution in this country and guns were illegal, we wouldn't stand a chance at taking back our government (And I personally believe that this country is long overdue for a revolution... but with a country this size, its just impossible...)
The rant could go on for hours and pages. but that is the main gist of my thoughts.
More or less, I believe you should have be able to have an IQ higher than the animal you're shooting in order to own a gun. (humor, don't take that sentiment too seriously).
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| Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:31 am |
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ZG
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Joined: 09 Jan 2007
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As for me I would like to have a firearm, but only in case I realise I really need it. I think it is indeed important to have means to defend yourself and close people when you live in a distant place and have no opportunity to ask for help (and again person has to be able to stand for him/herself on his/he own) and I guess that even here people who live in such conditions own guns or riffles (+ people who have hunting as a hobby). But it is difficult for me to understand what does a 18 y.o. guy need a firearm for, living in the city, spending most of the time between home, uni and some places of interest. Then again having personal firearms works only for places (countries) where people are conscious enough, are more or less satisfied with their lives (in general) and are lacking factors that bother them in their everyday life and finally lead to agression, the state when one is unlikely to control oneself and think before doing. But as I observe people around, their behaviour and general moods and attitudes... 
However, whether it is legal or not, much is sold illegally anyways and those who want to own a gun by any means and are not afraid of consequencies are free to do it =\
By the way, is it true that to buy firearms in the US one doesn't need louds of papers and a permission to own one?I heard that it is like any citizen at the certain age and older can pop into the shop and get a gun at the price he/she can afford..And it seemed strange to me: what about the prescription of psychiatrist, for example?Can you clear up the situation, please?
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| Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:15 am |
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Iron Wood
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Joined: 14 Nov 2006
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There are laws governing firearms in the USA. You need to be at least 18 y.o. and have proper i.d. etc. There are federal laws that apply to all states within the USA and then there are state level laws that differ state to state. And then some cities like Sam Francisco have laws that outlaw gun ownership by citizens of the city.
When I bought my firearms each time I had to pay for the US Government to run a background check on me. In the USA if you have been convicted of a felony level crime you can NEVER own a gun legally after your conviction. The background check identifies what crimes you have been convicted of. There is also a ten day waiting period from between when you purchase the firearm and when you receive it. You cannot take the gun home until ten days after the dealer receives approval from the government. There is no psychological exam. Also our national constitution reserves our citizens the right to own and bare firearms.
The hard thing about making restrictive gun laws is the guns still get made but end up in the hands of the WRONG people. Its like crack cocaine or heroin. Both are illegal and we even have a war against them in the USA yet you find both these illegal drugs all over every major city in the USA.
For me it is natural to own a gun. My father served two tours of duty in Vietnam as well as his two brothers and both my Grandfathers served honorably in WWII fighting back the Nazi invasions in France and North Africa. The men in my family have always been soldiers and our family has always owned guns.
Growing up my father was a licensed gun dealer and I shot guns enough to become familiar with handling one safely and responsibly. Now as an adult owning a firearm feels like a natural means of securing me and my families safety. As a gun owner you never want to have to use it but at the same time owning a firearm assures you have a fighting chance gievn you have some skill in its use.
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| Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:39 pm |
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Dea
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
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Well, there's definitely no need for a firearm when you're not a hunter or something like that 
But, I also own an arm, it's a compound bow and I do bow shooting in the wood. My club has got a quite big area in the woods where we've got our course and it is full with 3D targets. For me it's a sportive action, cause it's really strenuous when you are walking through the wood for hours and you always have to draw the bow. You have to be concentrated, you are so close to nature...I just love it.
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| Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:18 am |
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ChAwech
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I have an aversion for all kinds of weapons, unless they're used as/for art or in martial arts. (or part of the job). Next to that, guns are less beautiful than weapons like swords, katanas, etc. I do own a sword, but I doubt it's useable to kill someone with.
I short, I don't own a gun and I highly doubt I will ever do so.
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| Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:23 am |
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Death Pact International
Joined: 16 Jan 2007
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Location: When did Brisneyland End? |
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My position on this issue is that if I could click my fingers and all guns vanish from the face of the planet, and no replacements would ever be made, I'd do it. On the other hand since both criminals and governments (sorry, I repeat myself) can own guns I feel I should be allowed to own guns and learn how to use them properly, including how to defend myself properly against them.
Since I live in acountry with strict gun laws I will be joining a gun club to learn some skills. The gun club I'm joining also has old-style flintlock rifles, which would be fun.
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| Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:09 pm |
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Iron Wood
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Joined: 14 Nov 2006
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Location: Western United States |
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As a person who identifies as a self reliant warrior I oppose the idea that no one need a gun but a hunter. I'm not sure how the rest of you perceive the world around you but I am definitely one to be on guard against predators amidst the sheep. In a world brimming full with rapists, murderers, child molesters, and other atrocious acts of violence and inhumanity I feel compelled to be prepared to face down such a threat.
Violence is a real problem in America. Many average Americans feel justified in settling disputes with physical violence and more and more frequently angry young men are exercising their feelings of alienation and rejection by shooting up schools, college campuses and work places. I would rather responsibly carry a gun and never have to use it rather than never carry a gun and wish I had one when someone I love or myself is threatened with violence. You would be amazed at how effectively a gun deflects a threat.
I respect those of you who have another opinion I just wonder how realistic the idea of gun prohibition would be. Not to mention the savage ways we managed to hack and bash one another to death for thousands of years before gun powder. Something tells me I would rather be shot then stabbed, sliced, or bashed to death.
I also feel as if the diversion to all forms of violence and weapons comes from living in a western culture dominated by Christian theology. The pervasive idea that ALL death is a sin or something to be avoided. If I had to kill a child pedophile to stop that person from hurting children or shoot a rapist to stop future women from being raped I would feel justified.
And lastly, our culture, ecspecialy the left, hates the warrior ideal. Somewhere in time and history the warrior was reduced to the soldier taking orders from politicians. As men, and as a people we lost a strong sense of ourselves when we turned a blind eye to the male ideal of the warrior. I carry my hunting knife on my side EVERYWHERE I go. I feel a commitment to my own warrior ideals to be armed in public if only to remind the people of today that men once wore weapons with pride and honor.
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| Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:31 am |
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Joined: 22 Nov 2006
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Gun owner. Where I live I don't need it for self-defense, doesn't make me feel like a man, nothing macho about it. As out-dated as "the right to bear arms" concept might be, it is still a right and I exercise it. Nothing like a Sunday afternoon at the firing range!
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| Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:01 pm |
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Cthulberg
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I don't own a gun and to be perfectly honest I don't need one either. Since social/public/racial violence is not an issue where I live, there is no reason for me to go vigilante.
However. If there was a perceivable direct threat against my family of course it would be different. I don't live in the US so I can't really judge the living conditions there, except that they probably aren't as bad as anti-US propaganda and the sensationalist media makes it out to be.
I do also respect the NRA stance that the right to bear arms is central to the American way of life. Though it's abit late now, this decree has been instrumental in giving the USA the problems they currently have. Don't think there's really any other way of seeing that. I mean the production of weaponry from handguns to rifles to fully automatic machine guns is not going down now is it?
It's a difficult subject to tackle obviously. If I had been an American I can assure you my position would be worded differently.
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I don't own a gun and to be perfectly honest I don't need one either. Since social/public/racial violence is not an issue where I live, there is no reason for me to go vigilante.
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Indeed.
I grew up with a dad in the military, so I spent my childhood playing with weapons of all sorts..
To me it was normal as we had machine guns,assult rifles, rifles, hand guns, shoot guns and bazookas lying around all over the place...
I use to joke about me knowing how many teddy bears i could fit in a bazooka actually.
I did do that alot, how strange it might sound...stuffing teddy bears into a bazooka...
We had hand greandes in our bedrooms i remember and i knew more about repsect for weapons than i did for my fellow human beings...
"never point anything at anyone, not even a broom stick as it might be loaded" my dad said over and over.
We used to blow things up all the time. Toy cars and tree stumps and so on...and my brother used to spend time shooting birds in the back yard for fun.
It was normal to us.
Then my brother shoot him self.
And the next month all the weapons were gone.
I know how normal and safe wepons can be, and i also know the devestaion they can cause.
That is my view on the matter.
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Cthulberg
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Stuffing teddybears into bazookas. Wow, I mean that's pretty much over the top  .
Awful to hear about your brother though, didn't know about that  . I suppose that goes to show that usually horrible things must happen for people to change their views.
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MorningStar
Joined: 22 Feb 2008
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I think in a world where violence is sometimes necessary it is only practical to have advanced weapons like firearms for when that time comes.
In addition I too agree that a revolution is needed someday (when it is made by and for the people and not left or right wing ideologues) and when that day comes we will need as many weapons as possible.
Having said that I sadly do not currently own a weapon but have been around them since a young age and intend to get one soon.
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| Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:15 am |
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Pesten
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Only interested in purposeful hunting and target practice.
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| Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:01 pm |
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K.S.
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I would like to own a firearm someday
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